Creative Questions S02EP2

Season 2 Episode 2 is back after a long hiatus after a cross province move, a bunch of storyline and a brand new night market experience. Presented by Desiree and Liam the partners in creativity siblings. dissecting and investigating the unique and interesting in all of us. Desiree’s web site is now up and running for pictures and videos that are referenced @ www.newnerdnovelties.com in the StrangeVerse section under Creative Questions. Liam has updated some of his rules and pictures at www.soloquest.ca
Extra large thank you goes to my friends and awesome customers and helpers: Jasmine and Tanner Klein and Jade Ross for helping set up, take down, lug around and sale help. You guys are the bees knees.
Episode Transcript
Desiree: Welcome to Creative Questions. The podcast where we attempt to review various creative projects, we ourselves are part of and/or other people’s unique creations in an attempt to celebrate the creative inspiration and all of us. I am. Desiree Silver, your host and owner of New Nerd Novelties and #OwnYourWeird lifestyle brand.
Liam: And I am Liam Hewlett. Your co-host back at it again. I’m glad I don’t make promises.
Desiree: Me too. Well, we had a lot happening, so this is going to be definitely a catch up one for sure. But I’m sure everybody’s really interested in what we’ve been doing.
Liam: Lately. Yeah. We’ve actually had people that have been asking us when we’re going to do another one of these and we’ll here it is. We’ve had, as Desiree said, a lot of things happen over the last few months.
You’ve moved in, we’re sitting in the same room for the first time in one of these, not over a call and, uh, ups and downs, health issues, losses in the family and just everything in between.
Desiree:Yeah, hopefully it’s going to edit a little bit nicer because I have an announcement. I have actually put my website up it’s up and going.
I don’t have the web store up yet, but I’ve got the blog posts where all of the creative questions are going to be uploaded. The great thing is, is the transcript, the actual audio and any of the pictures or video are all going to be on the same page.
Liam: It’s a slick looking website.
Desiree: I’m pretty proud of it.
My friend Teela helped me make it. And it has my social media account also linked in. So if you don’t have social media say Instagram, the pictures were actually loaded from Instagram as well. So you’re not missing anything.
Liam: Which is good because I don’t go to any social media sites. So I wouldn’t be able to see it otherwise
Desiree: You barely check your email. We know.
Liam: If someone tells me they’ve emailed me. I’ll check it. Otherwise it’s just spam.
Desiree: I mean, honestly, you’ve had that forever, so it probably is just spam.
I’ll let you go, first.
Liam:Okay. Well, there’s been a few things I’ve been up to, I haven’t really health wise felt well enough to do any painting.
I haven’t really been motivated to do that, but my D and D campaign has been going strong over the last few months. We’ve been keeping our sessions consistent and there’s been a lot of developments in that campaign. And I’ve done a lot of things that I’ve been proud of and that the guys have enjoyed.
We had our first character death over the last few months. That’s a first for me as a DM. And I feel like it went rather well with the party. A lot of them were talking about how they’re looking forward to their current characters dying cause they have so many ideas for new characters. Um, so yeah, I’ve, I’ve been doing a lot of stuff in that regard, mostly writing, but also creating multiple different systems to be used in addition to the D and D that we play.
Yeah, that’s a lot of what I’ve done over the last few months, but especially in the last month or two is I’ve made a game within a game that the guys can play and interact with that helps them sort of quantify how they’re going to be waging a guerrilla war against an army of werewolves.
Desiree:The werewolves are back.
You were, you had talked about them before and you’re back in the same place.
Liam:Yeah. The werewolves aren’t back then the players are back at the werewolves.
The werewolves didn’t go anywhere. No, they didn’t accept out and a larger and wider and the scarier. And so they gained a little bit of power by returning to society.
And then they teleport out. Struck a bargain with the Paladins God to get transport out there instantaneously, which was outside the realm of their magical capabilities and funds. So they owe The Paladins God a favor. They’re pretty deeply in debt in that regard will they’ll learn just exactly what it is that that will cost them later.
But for the moment, they are all peachy keen jelly bean.
Desiree:Except for the death.
Liam:Yeah.
Desiree: Well, you should probably talk about the death.
Liam: That was pretty good. Yes. So while they were in, back in society, they got commissioned by the Paladins order to put out some fires by his superiors. They promised rewards for his private contractors.
I E the other players that aren’t the Paladin. And so they became like the Paladin and his retinue, going around fixing problems for this paladin order. One of those problems, the first one they decided to tackle was a potential traitor in a port city of mine that I had theoretically crafted. And then later on expanded on when the guys decided to go pursue that.
They went to the port refuge and sought out this traitor. She ambushed them and got the drop on them, but they managed to fight her off in their first encounter. Uh, shook them up quite a bit, but it didn’t , cause enough damage to kill them before she fled with her life. And then they tracked her down over the next couple of days to essentially an underground casino, very reminiscent of Blade.
Not going to lie.
Desiree:The blood casino?
Liam: Sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Very similar.
Desiree: They had a, I don’t know anybody who hasn’t watched that movie. I mean, everybody’s seen Blade, but if you haven’t, at one point the vampires have a rave where the sprinklers go off and it’s all blood.
Liam: It’s a blood rave.
Yeah. This one wasn’t run by vampires or anything like that, but it was under the control of this traitor who was, had some demonic aspects about her, uh, because of who she like signed a pack with who she worshiped. And so they kind of managed to track her down, infiltrate this club. They did a great job with it, with them in their ally. They got into the club and neutralized everybody there that was not the primary antagonist and her party, and then found the hidden statue in which she had her like hidden chambers behind and a portal to some other plane of existence that her party exited through.
And she remained with one of her closer companions to fight the group. And that was the one that, that was the fight in which one of our player characters died because that assassin that they were chasing was demonically empowered and not, uh..
Desiree: Pretty bad ass.
Liam: Yeah. A very, uh, very bad-ass lady. She, she did a number on that, uh, that poor character.
Desiree: And you got to use your new Christmas present.
Liam: I did. Yeah. I, I have several Christmas presents that I’ve been using actively within the campaign. The one that I use the most, mostly as a fidget spinner is a metal tree that has multiple layers to it, like a, that are sided dice, essentially that you can spin like a top.
Yeah. And that I’ve enjoyed that immensely, but I think you’re referring to the 3d printed skull and the bone dice that you gave me.
Desiree: The death, the death cup.
Liam: Yeah. It’s the, uh, what we use for death saving throws in this regard, actually it didn’t actually need to get rolled because the way it worked is the character fell and then was attacked repeatedly while he was on the ground.
And that those are automatic failed saves. Yeah. So you didn’t actually get the chance to pull out the cup. It’s not his fault that he died other than the fact that he got murdered by daggers and the claws and stuff.
Desiree: No bad throw, at least then it feels a little bit better.
Liam: His agency wasn’t all there. The party are of a high enough level now that they had some options, if they wanted to resurrect the character.
But my player expressed his desire and to the party as well, because they have a necromancer in their group that can somewhat limitedly speak with the dead. So they spoke with their former party member that fell, and he didn’t want to return to the mortal plain in a new body, because that was the option that they had.
The Druid can resurrect people, but he doesn’t return them to their original body. He just makes a new one for them. And it’s randomized. What
You’ll get
You get. So you could get something really cool, like a centar
or something
get a goblin or something boring, like a human.
Desiree:Yeah. none of your characters are human, are they?
Liam: There’s one, one, yeah. There is one. The Paladin is actually a human, but that’s mostly what he plays. It’s, it’s pretty difficult. I mean, I’m somewhat the same way. Most of the time when I play RPGs, the first character I make is a very basic warrior of some kind with a weapon and a shield. And my player that’s playing the paladin is similar, except his default is human Paladin.
Right. So if his current character were to die by some miracle, cause at the moment he’s, definitely the most survivable of the group. But if he were to die by some, happenstance, then maybe he would branch out. And, he was talking about wanting to play a goblin barbarian or something like that.
But yeah, we had the character death in the party and it was, um, it felt quite impactful.
Desiree: And then you made him a new character and a new model.
Liam: Yes. New model, new character to his specifications. This one is a hobgoblin, and he specified that he wanted his hobgoblin to have blue skin, which is not normal for hobgoblins.
Most of the time they’re like tannish orange or red. But this character of his is an alchemist. And so it’s pretty within the realm of possibility that he’s been testing his own supply and hasn’t found a way to alter his skin back to its original tone.
Desiree: That was a whoops. Was it?
Liam: It was just kind of like it’s grown on him.
Yeah, so he’s playing a significantly different character than he was before, before he was playing Gale a warlock, a celestial warlock that was empowered by a patron of like beauty and visuals. All of his magics were multi-hued colors of all different flavors of the rainbow. And so now he’s playing Rain who is a much older character in that he’s like middle aged.
He’s the oldest of the party. He’s in his like early forties as a character. And he is a ex slave and ex commando in my world, the province of deliverance is just a few decades away from having been completely freed. And so there are a lot of people from deliverance, which is like the melting pot of my civilizations that have been like a part of, um, slaves, or they fought in the wars for their independence.
So he’s a veteran of that war. And so he has a much more , a much different demeanor than Gail cause he’s been through a lot more Gail, was a lot younger.
Desiree: Not as pretty.
Liam: And his charisma is nowhere near as high, especially because Gail was a shape-shifter so he could look however pretty he wanted to,
Desiree: Oh, I’m sad that shapeshifters gone no more, prettypretty lights either.
Liam: No, that was a good model too.
I had two actually as will probably be tradition for my campaign when the character dies I gift the model to the player. So he’s got those at home. He took them with him when he died.
Desiree: Oh, that’s nice.
Liam: So he’s got his two miniatures there, which are they’re good miniatures. I was pretty proud of the effects I had, especially cause I had like a rainbow effect going around from his like book of power to his outstretched arms.
Desiree: We can include a picture of that as well. I know you’ve done it before.
Liam:Yeah. I’ve got some pictures of that somewhere in here. Cool. And I’ll try to get a picture of Rain. I don’t have any, I’ve taken at the moment. He’s very blue on blue on purple. So I’m going to
Desiree: I love purple.
Liam: Yeah. I’m going to have to give him a bit of a contrast in his background for him to pop a little bit, but I think the model turned out fairly well.
Uh, but I just haven’t really been too motivated to finish the multiple different painting projects that I have at the moment. Other than that, I’ve been doing a lot of writing for the, for the campaign.
Desiree: Well, you had to write up a whole new game set for this mini game.
Liam: I didn’t have to. I wanted to.
Desiree: Yeah. And what’s kind of like the concept of it.
Liam:Uh, so the concept is, so once they finished their business in this port refuge, they returned to the largest, like the capital city of the union of mortals, which is like the largest the collection, like it’s, it’s society’s base, right? It’s New York city in my fantasy world.
Uh, except if New York city was the Capitol of like two kingdoms basically. And they returned after having successfully completed their mission down one. And they had been getting some reports about what had been going on in the Crescent wild lands, which is the place that left after being chased out by a bunch of werewolves.
And, it didn’t sound good. It sounded quite bad. In fact, the reports that have actually made it back to the union have been very understated. It’s a lot worse than that. And the, even the stuff that they did here, wasn’t good, especially because their closest companions in the Crescent had been blamed for the, fall of Solo ‘Quelas, like the hostile takeover of the werewolves.
So they hadn’t been ex-communicated basically. And there were warrants out for their arrest. So the people that had been some of their closest allies were now wanted criminals and that didn’t sit right with them. So they decided that they were going to return to the Crescent Wildlands sooner rather than later, because if they walked in, if they hoofed it, it would have taken the month, for your return.
They initially they returned to Melitus like the Capitol in an instant, because there was a high level major with them that teleported them out when things got really hairy in combat, but they didn’t have that option anymore. Their wizards are not that high enough level, neither is the druid with them.
And so they besieged the Paladins God through the use of a talking to a plainor ally and struck a bargain to get a one way ticket to the Crescent wild lands in return for a favor. And they wound up in a swamp directly opposite from a battle that was already ongoing with their friendly NPCs and some lycans.
And werewolves and other beasts within this swamp around it, tainted shrine. And so they’d returned, uh, but they’re vastly outnumbered and outgunned. They’re super, super out numbered by very high quality enemies. And so I wanted a way that I could quantify how a small group of adventurers and their allies could do some significant damage against a larger organization.
One that is large enough, it wouldn’t be much of a stretch to call it its own fifedom, at least kingdom, maybe small kingdom with the amount of people that they’ve captured and have converted.
Desiree: Do you know the numbers?
Liam: Not exact numbers? No, I don’t. I don’t deal with exact numbers because it’s much easier for me to keep it a bit loose for the necessity of the narrative.
I know it’s a significant amount because there was a gold rush that happens as a part of like one of my narrative points in this area before the lychans came in. And so there was just a whole bunch of unprepared un armored civilians of which the party helped, uh, save from a brutal winter. So they were all condensed in basically two population centers ofwhich..
Desiree: That was your other mini game.
Liam: Yeah. Of which the werewolves have raided. Yeah. It was a little bit of a set them up and then knock them down.
Desiree: Yeah.
Liam:Yeah. They’re all, you saved them, put them all in one place for the hungry werewolves to enslave. And so now they’re having to deal with this, a landmass that is just covered with patrols and Scouts and war bands of werewolves that are specifically hunting for the remnants of the forces that are fighting against them.
And so they’re going full Rambo style, taking them out one at a time and
Desiree: Guerrila warfare.
Liam: That’s exactly what it is. That’s and I want a way to quantify how they could take apart this much larger foe piece by piece. And so I made basically another game within the game. It’s like a its own board game that the guys play that translates into the role-playing game that they’re also doing.
And I’m pretty satisfied with the result of it. We’ve played three sessions now with it, and the guys are like familiar and I hope with my mechanics that a it’s going a little bit, it’s going smoothly slowly, but that is somewhat by design. I really wanted these guys to feel the weight of their actions. I wanted them, especially when they get closer to the end of this to really feel justified in the result when it happened.
Like when they finally get to like defeat the end boss when they finally like capture or kill or rescue major population centers and the people that have been terrorizing them. I really want them to get that sense of accomplishment from it. And I think the way that we’re doing it, they really will feel awesome about those accomplishments when they actually do get there.
And along the way, it’s helped me really flesh out this specific area of the world and great detail of like I’m laying out region by region and they’re exploring like region by region and there might be landmarks in these individual regions that could be exploited to their advantage in their conflict, where there might be even like a, some sort of mythical creature that they could, uh,ally withor like request aid from.
Or there could be some sort of monster in a lair which like taking out the monster would give them whatever might have been in its lair, right? There’s stuff like that, that I’ve laid out across the map, unlikely allies or, uh, previous friends that they’ve had that have become tied down in some way or another.
But once they are rescued, then they can join the forces and stuff like that. I also specifically made the system to be expandable. So this might not come as a surprise to the guys, but once they get to a certain point, it’s not going to be as much guerrilla warfare as it is just going to be straight up warfare.
Once they’ve taken enough chunks out of these this kingdom that they’re fighting against, they rescue enough population centers that people are going to want to fight back. So it’s not just going to be them and there four allies, it’s not going to be eight people against the world. They’re going to eventually want, have people that will want to fight with them for them.
Desiree: And as well as you get more populated, cause you said there in certain areas, like, so there’ll be more of the werewolves and the two areas you had the people.
Liam: Yes. Yeah. I specifically put them in an area where like their allies were to begin with and their allies were there because this was the least concentrated area of the lycans.
Right. They had been pushed out to the fringes of this domain and they’ve been eating along the edges, just picking off whatever they can with the arrival of the player characters. Now they’re, they’re able to expand their, reach out a little bit more, but the swamp that they’re in is of no strategical, like big strategic significance to the werewolves.
Unlike the major holds where the population centers that they captured and enslaved were or some significant landmarks and like minds are in other regions. But once they conquer this area, then they can start moving to those more strategic targets. And it’s going to be, it’s going to be fun. It’s, it’s really telling a tale because they’re also doing this in unison with their, the allies that they have are the previous leader of the town, where they spent the majority of their low level time with.
Right. This is, uh, the character that they’re interacting with on a regular basis now is Travis Brightblade of which before he was literally the guy that would give them magic items for completing quests, right. He was the leader of the town that they kept going in and out of. So they, at the time he was the. authority in the Crescent Wildlands, and now he’s, an ally with them that they fight alongside with in battle. And he’s a very driven and very much, uh, they’re being kingmakers at this point because he’s tired of the, the union of mortals that abandoned his people. And they literally, they closed the gates and said, not our problem, the werewolves aren’t going to come across our moat, basically because it’s basically the grand canyon times three between us and them.
So anybody that’s on that side of the canyon, tough luck. That’s not the union, they’re not union citizens. We’re not worried about it. And he was not, uh, well, not happy about that. So he’s declared independence and it wouldn’t, won’t be a stretch that once there was enough people that joined us cause he will uh, join them together in a community of whatever kind it might form into.
Desiree: So, basically it’s all the rejects saying, fuck you.
Liam Yeah.And
Desiree: so they make their own.
Liam: And so if they do eventually secure the Crescent wild lands from these werewolves, they’re going to have like, that’s, this is the first action that the party has really taken.
That has been completely altruistic. They weren’t asked to do this. In fact, I was, it came at a great detriment to them. They had to like beseach a God to do this. They had to agree to pay the God at some point later on in the future. And there was no like, agreed upon reward for this happening.
Previously they’ve done, um, heroic deeds, but there’s always been a monetary gain for them.
Desiree: More like rogue right, later on were mercenaries.
Liam: Yeah. There’ve been adventurers right they’re that you do a good deed. You get paid for it. That’s very much been their life up to this point. They’re moving from, as they move up in levels, they’re moving from famed adventures to true heroes.
This, when they do finally accomplish this task, they will have gone from an adventuring party to renowned heroes, especially within the Crescent Wildlands in the population that they’re saving. They’re going to be the bees knees.
Desiree: Everybody wants to, you know, support the underdog. So if you do that yah, everybody’s going to like you, except for obviously the losers.
Liam:Yeah.
Desiree: But that’s true of any battle.
Liam: Well, and like how a horrible, how horrible these, uh, the enduring domain as I’ve named them, how horrible they’re treating the populace. There is a very, like there’s a very moral reason for them to be doing what they are doing..
Desiree: Lycans eat people people don’t they? So
Liam: yeah, as a base that’s, that’s like, that’s the base and they’re not, they’re not treating them well on that.
Like that’s the base and the that’s like the best treatment you can get from your lycan overlord. And it gets worse from there a lot worse.
Desiree: Cause they can turn people too right?
Liam: They can. Yeah. And they are and like I won’t get into the grizzly details, but they’re like it’s through like shared guilt and it’s just all around unpleasant.
Desiree: Yeah.
Liam: I, as I’ve said before, I asked the guys in my party how explicit they wanted me to be with my content. Right. How much I would like, cause like the stuff would still be there. I just wouldn’t need to describe it. Right. Or I would gloss over it. If I wanted to go more PG or family friendly and unanimously, the guys said that they didn’t want me to hold it back.
So while I’m not being distasteful in my recollections of what’s happening to these people, I’m making it pretty clear that they’re having a very bad time.
Which is why they’ve turned around to become heroes really.
Desiree: Because they’re like, Nope, Nope. We can’t nope.
Liam: Yeah. Well, I alluded to it, uh, originally, as I said, they didn’t get the real reports about what’s happening back in the union.
This was on them. This was their, their choice to come out here. So, uh, a part of that was the new character Rain because he has ties with these NPCs that we went to, but you didn’t have that selfish motivation that Gail had of like Gail was very much all about his, monetary gain and he wanted to build his fortune.
And that was his goal. Whereas Rein, having been, an ex slave of having been a part of the blue ribbon army, which are the people that rebelled against the empire and they were ones that fought for their freedom. He’s much more about fighting tyranny, right? That’s more his motivation. And he was also the members of the troop that these guys teleported to are previous members of the blue ribbon army that, uh, one of his friends in the army specifically asked him to look after.
And so he heard word that they were in trouble. And so he was like, well, that’s what my character wants to do. He wants to return to their unit, want to go on all of these other cool side quests. That’ll give us a bunch of money and probably some levels and make us a bit stronger before we go. We need to go now.
Uh, so that ripple effect of having that one character die, it may, they may not have returned to the Crescent if it wasn’t for Rain joining the party, but as it is now, they’re locked in for a major scale conflict that will eventually turn into an all-out war. And I think that they’re going to be able to do well.
Desiree: Oh, that’s good. I’d rather not have them die, attempting that better to become the hero.
Liam: Yeah, it wouldn’t be, it wouldn’t be such a good story if they fail at it, but that’s not entirely my decision. It could just happen that way. Hopefully it doesn’t and I think it would make a much better story if they conquer this lycan empire take down, Macaco, which is the leader.
He’s a giant ape in a blue suit of metal armor that has telepathic capabilities.
Desiree: You’re going to have to make that model eventually.
Liam: I am. Yeah, I already, I already have a base for that miniature, so I’m not too worried about it. I was prepared for them to fight Macaco ages ago. They would not have been ready, but like, I at least have like the rough miniature for him and like how he’s going to play out.
Desiree: Just reminds me of the DC character, the smart ape but with armor.
Liam: Don’t tell them my, my, uh, influence. Yeah. I looked at Gorilla Grodd and I was like, exactly that yes.
Desiree: With armor, scary
Liam: Gorilla Grodd often has armor.
Desiree: It’s true. He does, but not blue.
Liam: Not blue. No. Uh, yeah, no, I, I very, very much modeled this character after Gorilla Grodd because Gorilla Grodd is a very interesting character to me
Desiree: Because he’s super intelligent.
Liam:Yeah. He’s super intelligent, but he’s also very speciest. That was what was interesting. Like he has his own nation and he very much believes in the inherent superiority of apes. Right. So long as their, um, mentality is augmented, which all of the apes in his civilization are. They’re just straight up, better physical specimens than a human ever is.
And that’s his like basis for his racism is that they’re just humans and other species aren’t as good as a, regular even chimpanzee.
Well, to be fair, I probably wouldn’t argue, but
So a lot of my characters, uh, beliefs are tied in with that. It’s just rather than being about apes or beasts, they’re about lycans because a, any kind of where creature is more powerful than known or a normal human, even a wererat is completely immune to physical damage.
If it’s not from a silver weapon. So like any, the strongest human in the world could fight a wererat with a sword, he’ll never kill that wererat and that’s just goes towards reinforcing Macaco’s view of the world. In addition to the other things that are happening with him in the plot.
Desiree: I just got visions in my head of a Wolverine like healing thing with this rat in multiple pieces. That’s what I got.
Liam:That’s basically what it is. I mean that rat might not ever kill that guy, especially if he’s just constantly getting his ass kicked, but, andhe wouldn’t die.
Desiree: If it’s a rodent of unusual size, it’s a big rat, then you could kill it.
Liam: Yeah. Yeah. If you stick his head in the fire, eventually he’ll die.
Uh, so that’s what I’ve been doing. The game system that I made for this, as I said, I made it to be modular. So that later on, when they do get like forces that they add to it, I don’t have to make a whole new game system. I just have to adjust the one I currently have that the guys are already used to. So they’ve learned one system and like, they understand how it works now.
And so when I add new things to it, they can understand how useful those new things are. Like recently, they just called for aid from one of their allies that was in a different region. And at, to this point, they had only had their three allies and the four characters having an additional ally show up is going to be a huge boom to their progress in this war.
And just that simple process of like playing with the heroes that they currently have makes them appreciate that when the new stuff comes in. Right. I do think there are some going to be some major story beats that I am like writing up, uh, coming up in the future that are going to be really awesome. So hopefully nobody dies.
There are a few very dangerous things that they have skirted around and might engage with. If they do succeed, I could really help them out or they could just avoid the danger altogether and they won’t have to worry about it.
Desiree: And it’s all luck of the dice sometimes too. Right.
Liam: Very much so. Yeah, like Gail he died in large part because he became paralyzed to a poison and, uh, that is paralize throw.
Yeah. It’s a dice throw. Right. He could have succeeded on that dice throw and he wouldn’t have been paralyzed. He probably wouldn’t have died.
Desiree: And this whole thing wouldn’t have happened..
Liam: Quite likely. Yes. Or if it would have happened, it would have happened much later. So that’s, what’s going on with me. It’s just a whole bunch of DND.
Uh, and I’m excited to continue playing it. It’s if you’re not playing at the table, I can’t really relate how this game system that I’ve made works, other than I’ve modeled it on games like civilization and total war. It’s very much a strategy game that they’re playing in addition to playing D and D at the same time, I wanted there to be fog of war so that they could get a feeling of exploration.
I wanted there to be, uh, elements of risk to it. And it plays a lot like you would think risk the board game plays. If Risk the board game had a basis in D and D and I wanted there to be rewards for exploration and something for every part of the party to do so. Uh, benefits to being a physical class and that like traversing terrain is difficult unless you’re a strong character, uh, you know, hunting things is better for people that have high stuff.
Pathfinding is good for those that have high survival and there’s things you can learn about the region through surveying it with your nature and like there’s landmarks that they can search with their investigation. And so I made it so that every member of the party is probably good at like two things that are required for things to do.
And then their NPCs, their companions all have their own individual strengths.
Desiree: I knew did it, as you said, it’s a partial reveal. So like we’re looking at the map and as you search and move into these new areas, you can see them. You can’t see them all at once.
Liam:Yeah.
Desiree: So he made this interesting map that he laminated where you can pull off pieces of fog.So you can’t see the whole map at once.
Liam:Yeah, I gave it the fog of war and I did that by printing off too. Like I, I made two maps and one of the maps, I just had the borders of the regions and a whole bunch of clouds. And I printed that off. In addition to the real map and the one with the clouds, I cut up all of the regions and laminated both of them and then stickied them on.
So that as they revealed the new, it was like an advent calendar. Right. So they really liked that part of it of like seeing a new region what’s in this region. Well, take away the fog of war and that’s what this region looks like. Uh, spoilers they’re in a swamp. So most of it is terrible.
Desiree: Right now anyway.
Liam:They’ve traveled across the swamp before, and it was a pretty brutal experience for them before.
Desiree: I guess we shouldn’t show that picture. Cause then they’ll be able to see the rest.
Liam:They’ve revealed almost all the maps at this point. Yeah. They’ve they’ve spent, yeah, they spend three, they’ve spent three sessions, three sessions in it and I won’t spoil the secret stuff that, uh, they have yet to interact with.
That there is to uncover there or they can just
Desiree: The picture, doesn’t say?
Liam:No, no, that’s just a written in my notebooks there. Yeah. They could just go straight shot towards trying to wipe out all of the enemies on the map, or they can try to build up their base of power as they move on. That’s what I’ve been doing.
There’s a lot more going on for both of us, especially for Desiree. She’s been doing a lot over the last few months, including having your very first market in Kamloops anyway. And it was a big success.
Desiree: It was, um, I want to talk about that first, just because it’s more fun than moving shit. So, and because it’s so in recent memory on Saturday, I went to I misfit night market, which was my first night market.
So it started at 5:00 PM and ended at 10:00 PM, which normally I do markets in the mornings and I’m not a morning person. So that was kind of nice waking up and being able to gather my supplies and pack and go out and set up and not feel like I was as rushed in the mornings, which is nice. But it made me feel like I was forgetting something because, you know, I had it like a good hour I could just sit there.
Liam: Also made it for a long day, too.
Desiree: It did. Yes. But you always, when you go to a market, you bring snacks, you bring caffeine, you bring emergency stuff because I have Crohn’s disease. I can’t exaclty work and stand or sit for five hours without going to the bathroom, eating and, and having caffeine and sugar.
Otherwise I’d pass out. So I bring all that stuff with me. I’m a veteran of markets. I’ve done quite a few markets at least three a year, but most of them are in October and most of them are during the day. So this was really nice. Kamloops is a population that when I moved here, when I was 19, didn’t have that many alternatives.
There wasn’t a pride parade. There wasn’t like, now we’ve got Derby, they’ve got metal groups. They’ve got a burlesque troop. They have an LGBTQ pride parade and they’ve done it four years-ish don’t quote me because of course, the two years in COVID who knows what the heck happened then. And so I was approached to do this market.
It’d actually showed up on my Facebook feed. Good marketing because they obviously paid for it to be marketed to someone who liked weird things like me. So a misfit night market was for misfits. So there was 21 vendors or 22 vendors, which isn’t huge. Plus the ones I’ve done before were 70 up the venue was rather small.
So they could only fit 22 somewhere outside. North shore at the Effie, which is a performing arts group. So they do burlesque in there and they do live music, concerts and stuff, and they have gender neutral bathrooms and they are wheelchair accessible, which was really nice. Um, good parking too, which is obviously something you need for a market. That’s free because no one likes to pay for parking.
So I set up there it was suggested like I was following everybody and doing my usual social media every time, uh, when you’re a vendor and they start revealing the vendors onlineyou repeat and re blog and repost all that social media stuff, so you get to see what everybody else has and kind of cross promote for each other.
So that was really fun. So there’s a lot of interesting things. A lot, some of this stuff is N S F w like not safe for work. Uh, some of it like, you know, sex, positive
things, um..
Liam: Like the whole table next to you.
Desiree: The whole table next to me had stuffed genitialia so yeah, I mean, it wasn’t a, it was a family friendly market, but there were a lot of kids that were rushed past that one.
And then to my left was the burlesque lady that had pasties. But no, no, genitalia showing and then there’s me in the middle. And Dad helped me make a whole bunch of different, display stands because I’ve needed display stands for years. And I I’m so happy to live with a carpenter. He could help me make these, I can make them myself, but he really likes too.
So that was really nice of him. And we made a lazy Susan that has display pegboards on it, and it will spin all the way around. And we had a hell of a time with the lazy Susan. We eventually did the real good idea thing, which we should have done at the beginning is just go to home Depot and buy it. But I didn’t know, you could just buy the piece by itself.
Liam: Yes. Instead of just trying to bodge one together, because if you’re trying to buy a regular lazy Susan, like something that you would have for your kitchen, those are not cheap.
No, the like 30 to 50 bucks. And I was like, I do not want to spend, especially cause most of them are plastics
Liam: 50 bucks for a plastic one.
Desiree: And they had the metal ones at home Depot for 12 bucks.
Liam:Yeah. The hardware specifically, which is all we needed.
Desiree: That’s all I needed. And I wanted to add to make them all modular so that I can break them down to their, their separate parts and put them away. And cause you have to bring everything in to a market and bring it all out again.
And this one you needed to bring a table and chairs, but you don’t always depending on the venue and they might have tables and chairs, but that’s just extra stuff, more stuff you’ve got to bring. Right. So everything folds down flat and the lazy Susan spins around. So that was, that was great. Cause I’ve got earrings and key chains and necklaces and, and headbands and all that.
And they work really well on a peg board and then people can just spin it around and he made me a three stair display. So it looks like a mini staircase. And I could put my bags on it and my different sewing projects, like I have got trees and cosmetic bags, pillows, and, and so that went on there and then I got a tree stands.
I usually bring trees if I have stuff that goes on trees. So I’ve got a black tree that has, I have little mini stockings and little mini trees. And I know it’s not, it’s not Christmas or Halloween, but Christmas and Halloween, like the Nightmare Before Christmas is kind of this weird combination for me.
I make these things. I make weird things. I make nerd things I’m going take christmas quote-unquote Halloween things with me and actually some of them sold, so yeah. Perfect size for credit cards or like a gift card. Yeah. And then he made me a piece of wood with pegs in it. And what it does is it holds my, holds my wallets up vertically instead of horizontally.
So that saves you space on the table and you can see more of them.
Liam:They look nicer. It’s kind of like a bookcase.
Desiree: Yeah. And I’ve, I’ve got pictures of all of this setup, at least together. And some of the individuals, like I’ve got some videos as well, if the spinning and then yeah, I was a little harder cause I’m going to be uploading these little, um, YouTube and then sending the links to the website so that you can actually click on those as well.
I do apologize because they are from Tik TOK. So some of them are going to have, well, they all have music, just so you know, it’ll play music automatically. If you hate that silence it like me cause I hate listening to the music.
Liam:They just put it on there?
Desiree: Well, I pick the music that I want and it’s better sometimes to have music, people like that, but I don’t like watching videos and having the sound on.
Liam:During this podcast. She had to turn the sound on your laptop. And I know for a fact, your phone is never turned on. It’s always on silent,
Desiree: Not even vibrate silent, full-on silent on silence. So I’m just one of those people. Yeah. So you’ll probably have to turn it off if it irritates you just a warning. So I set up my table and I had a friend who is a really good customer of mine who I’ve done a bunch of custom work for me, Jasmine.
She came in and it was her first market and she wanted to help me. So I’m like awesome, sweet. So she was very enthusiastically putting everything out. And then every time someone would come by the table, she’d ask them. What do you carry your wallet as a wallet? Like what kind of wallet do you like? And was explaining all the different types, because I have about five or six different types of wallets, um, got miniature ones that can clip to your waistband with a grommet.
So you don’t even have to have a purse. I’ve got ones that are shaped, like skulls. I’ve got tri-fold, which is more like more of the traditional men’s style wallet. But I do not gender any of my items, which was really nice cause we had a lot of people that came through that were non binary androgynous, which was really nice to see in Kamloops all at once.
So she was super excited and I swear she helped me sell alot. Oh, so, um, Mom and Dad came to visit and they noticed that my station, my store had the most amount of people in front of it the whole time. And at five o’clock people ran in, I was trying to go look at other people’s vendors. Cause once you set up, you try and go look at everybody else’s. Did not have time. Yeah. I ran upstairs, outside
Liam:You were pretty much busy the whole time. Right.
Desiree: And ran all the way back downstairs and yeah. Um, Jasmine didn’t know how to use my tablet because I can take credit and debit and all that. And then she just wanted to sell. So I had to do it, and I was basically the whole time putting stuff through as Jasmine got people to buy things.
So yeah.
Liam:Big shout out to Jasmine. It’s a big, big, thank you to her. She really helped out.
Desiree: Yeah. And she’s so enthusiastic. She wants to do them all from now on. And I really appreciate that because I need a partner. It’s a lot for one person, especially if they have to run to the bathroom or whatever, it’s a big deal.
Liam:Though most of the markets that you do do are out of town.
Desiree: Yeah. They’re on the coast. And my best friend Teela helps me with those ones as well. And yeah, she’s excellent. There’s a couple more things I have to do for myself cause she’s the one that usually plays with the tablet. So I was teaching myself and it was not that difficult.
Shout out to square too. I love square. I can take debit, credit cash, all at once. So that was really pretty cool.
Liam:So it keeps good track of what you’ve sold in your stock and stuff like that. Cause I was, I was surprised by how updated your information was when you came back after the market, you knew exactly how much you had sold of what type and
Desiree: Yeah, it’s all inventory.
So when I, when I make something, now I make a barcode because my friend had a barcode scanner. And that barcode you can, you can include in square with your stock, the name of it, how many you’ve got, how much it is and it all scanned into the barcode. And there you go, you go off and then it’ll tell you afterwards, you know, what were the most popular things sold, which is pretty cool.
So. I have never done a market where I’ve sold so much material period. I’m pretty darn proud of us, Jasmine and I, we sold over a thousand dollars worth of items. That’s not what I take home because, you know, I put so much money out into product. I had to pay for the table, have to pay for my gas and everything else, but I have never grossed that much in any market.
All of the markets I’ve been doing put together in the last five years, probably didn’t gross that.
Liam: And this is Kamloops!
Desiree: And this is Kamloops. So apparently I found the weirdos and they liked me. Thank you very much Kamloops.
Liam:It really does kind of encourage you to seek out markets in the interior.
Desiree: Yes. And there’s a big one in Vernon that actually happened the same week, creative chaos, and people think I would do well there too. So I might do that next year. We’ll see some of the interior ones have this thing where they don’t let you apply online and you actually have to mail in your application with a cheque who does that?
Liam:Who does that?
Desiree: I’m going to have to send her one of my moms with, I have permission to use my mom’s because I have cheques, but who knows where the hell they are?! But it’s still it’s exciting.
Liam: I have a chequing account. I do not have cheques. If I ever have the need of a cheque, I have to go to my bank and tell them to give you my chequing information.
Desiree: And then they will, if you want to cheque, you have to pay for it. It’s not fun.
Liam: Yeah. I got that problem cause I wanted to get my gym membership back and they don’t like, they need your bank information because they want to suck you for as much cash as possible when you in a few days decide that you don’t go anymore.
And so they’ve got you locked in for like a year after that. Uh, which like, that’s just the racket fine. But there’s no other method of payment okay. I guess they didn’t want my money that bad.,
Desiree: I guess not. And so, yeah, I was quite happy. The market was busy literally from when we opened till half an hour at the end.
And that’s when all the vendors came out because we finally could leave our tables and go look at each other’s stuff. So I was quite happy. I made a bag. My very first like I’ve been making a lot of stuff, obviously since March when we moved a lot of stuff.
Liam:Yes. More than we can really talk about in one episode.
Desiree: No. So if you want to definitely look at my social media for all the different things I’ve made, but one of my most proud of is, is my bat bags. They’re called the Milo bat bag. They’re a little bag. They’re not too huge, but they have eight wings and the wings on the side clip together. So you can tighten up the bag or you can unclip them.
And they’ve got a flat on the front. It’s got teeth. So it looks like a bat.
Liam: It’s very cute.
Desiree: Very cute. And I made two of those, my very first two, one of which was for Jasmine because she commissioned me to make her one. And then the other one I finished the day before. And that was a Nightmare Before Christmas one.
So it had Jack on it and it was black and white had a Zero zipper poles. So the part of the zipper that pulls it had a little Zero on it, and everybody was looking at it cause I was like $85 market price because these are regularly on my web site going to go for a hundred because they’re a lot of work, but they’re worth it.
Cause they’re so damn cute.
Liam: In fact, you’re having an old sewing machine that we’ve dug out from our collective space here in the house refurbished. Just so you can have a bit of an easier time making these things..
Desiree: Yeah. I do have a picture of that one. It’s an old 3 0 6 K singer. If anybody knows what that is, it’s one of the ones that’s built into a table.
It’s an antique. Yeah. And it’s from the 19, I think he says 56 or 66. It’s hard to tell because the instructions online have a trademark right there where that number is. So I don’t know if it’s a 56 or a 66, but it looks like an art deco piece. It’s like black and gold.
Liam:It’s beautiful.
Desiree: And it’s gorgeous.
Brought it out, tested it, it does work. It works like a hot damn it’ll go through anything. So that will help with the multiple layers of vinyl that I’m working with because vinyl is very thick. Think jeans, think six or seven layers of jeans at once. It’s thick. So this machine, because it’s metal and the motor’s a bit more industrial than my individual sewing machine.
My domestic it’ll go. Unfortunately it takes short needles. So I had to order in specialized needles. This is the only singer that takes short needles. Of course. And then the wiring was so old the casing for the wires actually disintegrated.
Liam:Just from age.
Desiree: Just from age from me, testing it out and playing with it.
So I had to order a new I’m ordering a new cable to the wall and dad’s rewiring the pedal. The pedal is pretty interesting because in a normal sewing machine, you have a pedal like a car. It’s all on the floor and you do just like a car you go,. But with this one, you use your thigh and you move the pedal, stick with your thigh to the table.
Liam:It’s built into the table.
Desiree: Yeah, that’s pretty interesting..
Liam: Yeah. It’s all one complete unit that folds into like a regular table too. Like, I didn’t even know what that thing was a sewing machine. I just thought it was a table.
Desiree: I didn’t know until Mom told me and all you can tell is just cause there’s a stick coming out of the bottom.
Yeah. Because the rest of it can be hidden underneath, you know, it’s a gorgeous machine. People can, um, there’s versions that are trendles, which is when you move the foot back and forth and no electricity. I would not want to try and do that.
Liam:Sounds like a workout.
Desiree: Too used to this. And it would be hard to be consistent because you move the needle when you move the trendle.
Liam:So yeah, that’s for the real old school.
Desiree: Yeah. Some people like there’s apparently a huge group of traditionalist to do that, but, well, I’m just happy to have something that’s close to an industrial because industrial sewing machines are the ones that make like car upholstery furniture. That’s even a more hardcore than this.
So it’s kind of in the middle and I’m happy because I want to be able to make these bags without swearing up a storm and tearing apart my hair, because there’s a little bit like when you get to a certain level that in your machine we’ll skip stitches. Cause there’s just too much for it to go through.
I also went to a local store, a sewing machine repair store. Anderson’s ,thank you very much anderson’s and they helped me pick out some really good needles and thread for my regular machine as well. Cause I didn’t occur to me that there’s different types of fabrics, knit and woven and knit, stretches woven doesn’t.
You would think vinyl would be a woven because it doesn’t stretch or if it does is very minimal because it’s like it’s plastic. Well, no, it’s backed by knit. It’s backed by stretch. So I was using the completely wrong needle and they gave me a different one and this is working more like butter for sure.
That makes me happy, small things. I’m self-taught so as you go, you’ll learn these things and even when you think, you know sometimes you don’t.
Liam:Yeah, so I that’s very much me as well. It’s like, I find it more efficient to teach myself than to get someone else to teach me. I’m just like, if it was that available even, uh, but now with so much information at our fingertips, if I have a question about something, I can find an answer to that specific question and I don’t need somebody over my shoulder.
Desiree: But because you do do that just like me, sometimes you don’t ask the question that needs to be asked if you know what I mean.
So you find out later oh woops I could have done that better,
Liam: Plenty of hot fixes that I’ve done or made, or even like processes that I’ve done that have been 15 times more inefficient than the one that I eventually find. I’m like, oh yeah, I probably should have just been doing this the whole time. I’m fine with that journey of self discovery.
Desiree:That’s basically me with every single computer program, by the way, because now I’m learning how to make a website website building using the WordPress and the Elementor. I am now going back into Photoshop because I made market signs and I got pictures of that. And I went back into Photoshop. I had to play with Excel because Teela and I were sharing a square account.
And I actually exported the stuff from the square account, from hers to mine using an Excel sheet. So very much I’m relearning or learning again, like from scratch whole new programs and like four or five of them right now. So I’m pretty proud of myself for that. I got to play with Liam’s laminator too.
So that was my incentive for playing with the Photoshop.
Liam:That’s one of the things that I’ve, uh, I’ve definitely grown accustomed to. And, uh, if there were some simple, like, Tips or tricks I can give to new DMS or people that want to dungeon master is there’s a few things that I’d say are universal, regardless of what kind of a game system you’re playing, whether it’s something that you’re familiar with or something that you’re new at, uh, just a laminator is really useful for so many different things. For creating visual references for like, they’re not that expensive, incedibly useful for making custom easy to do custom things, as long as you can.
I mean, they’re okay for notes, but mostly if you were printing stuff, right. If you have a printer that actually works laminators are awesome tools for a DM. And also this is true for any DM that plays any system, right. Write down a bunch of names that will just be at your disposal, just like have a sheet of paper or like several sheets in your notebook.
That just have names that you can just like cross off as you use them, because you’re going to run across one-time NPCs that the players are going to run into on a constant basis as they like turn left and talk to some ShopKeep that you never intended to exist. You want to have names just like off the top of your head.
Like not, and you won’t be able to pull them if it’s off the top of your head. Some of the names I came up with when I didn’t have that list of names were just awful. Right. They’re just terrible.
Desiree: Like what Liam?
Liam:The most uninteresting, boring name that you could possibly think of that certainly doesn’t sound like a fantasy character.
Desiree: Adam apple tree
Liam: something like that, right?
God, that name sucked, but that’s what we’re going with. Yeah, he’s Greg. Wow. Greg, the
Desiree: Shop keep.
Liam: The patrolman. Yeah. Oh man. Sure. Hope nothing happens to Greg.
Desiree: I hate that name. Kill him. Yeah. So for me, it’s, uh, I was using it for signage and then I made, actually had enough time, thank God like this is one of the few markets of where I felt like I had enough time to prepare for it because I don’t have a full-time job and I’ve only ever done one other market when I didn’t have a full-time job.
And that was in October. And you never feel like you have enough time in October. October is like December for regular people. You never feel like you have enough time in October, as a haunter or a person really spooky things at Halloween. You just never think you have enough time. So this was a kind of relaxing.
I mean, Mum thought I was so stressed out. She was worried about me. I’m like, dude, I have anxiety, Mum, this is me normal. Don’t worry about it. If it’s a big deal I’ll, I’ll ask for help. Don’t worry. But they were still like my whole family’s suggesting different ideas and tips and tricks on how to do the marketing and how to do the markets better.
And they’re so fricking proud of me. I really appreciate it. So everybody helps. I even got to put my table upstairs and play with it before I went. I’ve never been able to have the space to put up the table and see what it was like going to look like.
Liam:We have the mock up display so that you can see what it would look like.
And also, so that you could verify that your turntable worked, which there was quite a back and forth to that for sure.
Desiree: I also had a birthday, so like I cut my hair and I’ve got a nice green Mohawk as soon as we moved here, which was really nice. Cause that’s something I never could have done before because I worked for a bank and that’s just not okay to them.
So, and I guess we’ll talk about the suite and the different renovations for that next time.
Liam: Uh, what are we at? We could probably talk a little bit about, uh, moving if that’s what you meant.
Desiree: We’re almost, yeah, we’re just outta time.
Liam: So I guess I’ll have to, we’ll have to cover that the next time we get together, which we’ll aim for next week, but make no promises.
Desiree: We make no promises, but I’m going to put the picture of me with my Mohawk and my birthday party. And then we’ll talk about it next week. But yeah, I even got tombstone wallets. That was one of the new ones that I made. And I got pictures of that as well. And they are shaped like a tombstone and I have a picture of Jasmine’s daughter-in-law who I also made a custom bag that Jasmine gifted to her.
And that’s the coffin bags with zombie skeleton hands, I definitely want to like show pictures of people enjoying their pieces. And I actually did sell to some of the other vendors, which has always good, we always buy each other stuff. Of course, I bought one of the stuffed genitalia from next door and she’s getting me to make her a custom wallet
Liam:and more flacid than I expected.
Desiree: Yeah, they weren’t there they’re stuffed, but not erect,
Liam: not excited
Desiree: and not excited no. And for mother’s day, I got to make Mum some, mini donuts. I’ve never made mini doughnuts before, but she had such a craving. So Liam was my sous chef and we played with Dad’s deep fryer and surprised Mom with mini donuts.
Liam: The fair was in town like the weekend before mother’s day. And we went in there to cause mom wide mini donuts, but there was just way too much of a crowd. We weren’t going to line up for half an hour to get mini doughnuts. So Desiree had the idea of making them and they turned out really well.
Desiree: And I found out from my cousin that she waited an hour and a half for mini donuts when she was there.
Yeah, no, no, no food. I won’t even go into a restaurant for that.
Liam:Or you couldn’t put a gun to my head and make me wait an hour and a half.
Desiree: Nope. Like if dad’s making barbecue, that’s one thing. But so I don’t remember my usual closure. So I’m just gonna say what I want to, which is, you know, thank you guys for listening.
This is Desiree and Liam from New Nerd Novelties Creative Questions. I have my website is www.newnerdnovelties.com and it’s now up and ready. By the time this podcast comes out, I will definitely have the page in the blog section, which is called strange verse, creative questions up. It should have the pictures and the videos.
I also have a Tik Tok that I’ve actually finally started to add to, because I’m learning how to make the little videos and that’s @desiree_silver and then obviously my Facebook and Instagram as well. It’s all listed there for you. Liam also still has his website, but it hasn’tbeen updated for a while. And yeah,
Liam: I haven’t updated for a while.
I just haven’t felt up to it, but it’s there soloquest.ca and it will, it will be there. Uh, when I do decide to update well,
Desiree: It’s also got a lot of previous stuff in is a lot of, um, lore history if you’re interested.
Liam: In there’s a lot of the lore and history, uh, I need to get some more of the pictures I’ve already taken put into galleries.
Desiree:Who has the time or the energy. Mostly.
We appreciate you guys listening. Thank you very much. Don’t forget to own your weird.
Liam:Yeah. Thanks for your patience too, for anybody that is listening to this we take this at our own pace and we’re going to continue to do so, but hopefully we’ll get to a little bit more of a consistent schedule now that our lives aren’t so crazy.
Desiree: Crazy. Yes. And like, and subscribe on YouTube if you like. Cause we always release them all on YouTube then, you know, when the newest one is for sure. And so this is Desiree and Liam Hewlett signing off.













